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The Consumer Society (proposed by Thor Johnson)

A recent article in a global news magazine begins with the following header:
"Capitalism can make a society rich and keep it free. Don't ask it to make you happy as well"

I think this will be a particularly enlightening discussion, considering that we live in the country that invented modern capitalism, yet many of us come from very different socioeconomic environments. Many nations seem to be headed towards the capitalist/consumer model as well, so we have to ask ourselves, is this an unquestionably good thing? Is there a hidden price we pay for becoming rich and free? Standard of living studies are focusing less on GDP and income and more on living conditions of people. Perhaps it is only after becoming rich and free that we can afford the time or the choice to ask this type of questions.

  • What are some of the problems facing a consumer society?
  • Can we make progress and evolve outside of the capitalist model?
  • Are there alternatives to a successful society that do not involve consumerism?
  • Are our values distorted because of the need to constantly produce, consume and accumulate wealth in order to keep our economy moving?
  • In emerging capitalist economies -some Asian nations come to mind: do people feel they are benefiting from the change?



Discrimination

Discrimination: the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b : prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment.

Discrimination, in the most common use of the word, is bad thing -no controversy there. But, what is discrimination? Is it always bad? Is avoiding discrimination a means, or an end in itself? Is it possible to have "good" discrimination such as affirmative action, for example, or is it bad by definition?

A recent thread on the main S.I.C. list revolved around how clubs allegedly practiced by having "ladies free" events. At first I thought that the posting was about discriminating against men, since they did have to pay, while women did not. Upon reading more, I realized that the discrimination was supposedly against women. I personally find this confusing (unless the club was advertising "free ladies", instead of "ladies free"... I'll have to read that again...) but that just goes to show that this is not very clear to many of us.

Here are a few questions. Think about what the answers are for you, and why, and let's exchange opinions at the next discussion meeting.

  • Do you think that discrimination has become a non-issue, practiced only by so few individuals as to be basically irrelevant?
  • Do you feel discriminated against, today, in this city?
  • In your opinion and personal experience, how does US society stand compared to other parts of the world?
  • Bring your questions for everyone else to answer.

February:(Organized by Mineko Sterling) Romantic Love

What better way is there to spend the Valentines Day than to analyze romantic love to death so it'll lose its significance?

For this month's discussion, we will meet at Diana's place on Tuesday, February 14th from 6:30pm-9:30pm. Please wear something red, pink, black, or white just for the heck of it. Also, bring something red, pink, black or white to eat. Hearts of all sorts (artichoke, palm, chicken, etc.) are acceptable as well.

This month's burning questions are:"Where did it come from?" "What is it?"
and "Where is it going?" (Feel free to bring some naked women from Tahiti.)

Each comment will be limited to one minute to avoid any show of sentimentality. I'll try to find a talking object to encourage an orderly and intellectual discussion. Please let me know if you have an anatomically correct, heart-shaped object.

Here is an article on love from Journal of Neuroscience
(http://web.sfn.org/content/Publications/BrainBriefings/love_andthe_brain.html)

Electoral Systems (Organized by Tom Cogbill)

  • Should everybody be given the right to vote ("the franchise")? How about felons, or people demonstrably ignorant about what they are voting on?
  • Primary elections were originally conceived to give members of a particular political party the right to directly elect the candidates who will run in the general election. Until it was ruled unconstitutional in 2003, Wash. state had a "blanket" primary which allowed a voter to select a candidate of either party on a post-by-post basis (as opposed to a slate of candidates). Now we have a "Montana" style" primary: the voter must choose from one of the 3 recognized political parties and can vote only within that block of candidates. Some other states have a "closed" system whereby the voter must declare his/her allegiance to a certain party in order to participate. Do primaries make small-party candidacies unviable? And if their point is for a party to select its candidates for the general election, do you think taxpayers should fund them?
  • Lastly, during the Progressive movement at the turn of the 19-20th cc., representative government was seen as being corrupt and not always representing the true will of the people. Several western states (including Washington) developed alternatives allowing for direct voter participation in law-making. As a result, we have the Initiative process and the Referendum, both of which allow voters to vote directly on a proposition. But because not all voters are well educated on the issue at hand, these methods are subject to demagoguery and may produce ill-considered laws. How legitimate do you think these alternative processes are? Should they be more limited and controlled, eliminated altogether? (Most states do without them.)

The US Health Care System; What is Wrong and How Do We Fix It? (Organized by Kelly Pidone)

  • What are the pros and cons of health care rationing? And when should it be used?
  • Is the health industry inefficient? Yes or no, and how?
  • Are we spending too much money on trying to cure or treat rare disease and not enough on common ones? Too much money on cure rather than prevention? Or just too much money?
  • What do you feel are the main contributing factors to increased total health care cost?
  • Do people have a "right" to health care?
  • What are the benefits and detriments of socialized health care?


Fear and Anger

As Master Yoda once said, "Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate... Hate, leads to the dark side". Not that it has anything to do with anything, but it sounds so cool... :-)

These two very strong emotions are undoubtedly major survival tools. Both are often tied together. Have you ever been in a near-accident caused by someone else? Usually it happens fast -sudden fear triggers a strong adrenalyn rush: with our hearts punding, we go into full alert mode; and as soon as we realize we are out of danger, it all turns to fury, targeted at the source of the danger. I like this example of how fear makes us avoid danger; while anger compells us to destroy it, becasue they are clearly two sides of the same coin, and in either case the aim is the same: survival.

On a less dramatic note, we deal with much milder versions of these emotions on a daily basis. As with colors, we use the same word for many different things. Do all these emotions have any beneficial role in civilized life, or are they just obstacles to our happiness and well-being? How do they affect our decision making and to what extent do they impact the course of our lives?

  • Why do some people seem so quick to anger while others seem immune to it, how much of it is nature/nurture?
  • What are our biggest fears?
  • How do these strong feelings override our rational minds, and how does our will suppress our strongest instincts?
  • How do different genders handle the same emotions?
  • If fear and anger are tools of our hind-brains, are there analogous feelings in our fore-brains, our rational side -what are they?

Conflict

From infants fighting over a toy, to nations going to war, conflict is a key ingredient of social behavior. We often find conflict at the turning points in our history, and at the defining moments of our lives. The skillful handling of conflict is an invaluable talent and a key ingredient of success.

  • How do we define it?
  • What are the most common causes of conflict?
  • Is it always possible -or desirable- to avoid conflict?
  • How does culture and gender affect how we handle conflict?
  • What are some examples of "unavoidable" conflicts?

Marriage

Humans, among other species, evolved aspects of their social behavior to maximize the successful rearing of offspring. Pairing in monogamous long-term relationships for this purpose seems inevitable, given the unusually long time and intense care required for humans to reach adulthood; a strong bond between the progenitors would ensure such long-term union. As human society increased in complexity, this long-term union acquired aditional dimensions. Culturally, most societies formalized this strong bond in the form of marriage.

  • Is modern society making marriage obsolete?
  • Are we a monogamous species?
  • As economic and social reasons for marriage fade away, are instinct and emotion left as the basic motivators for marriage?
  • Why do most of us today find a long-term, stable relationship to be desirable, even when we don't have pressing social, economic, or cultural need for it?

What is The Meaning of Life?

Our quest for the Ultimate Answer...
  • Is there a reason why we are here, on this planet, in this age?
  • Biologically, our imperative is to propagate our genes -does having children give our lives a diferent meaning?
  • Can scientific, artistic, religious, or othe goals give meaning to our lives -and what happens if we don't have them?
  • Does life need to have a meaning? What if it doesn't?

The “Seattle Freeze”

They say Seattelites are very polite and friendly at first impression, but that they prove distant and clique-ish if you try to get close. This topic proved to raise a lot of interest in the main list and fired off an intense thread of debate.

  • Is the "Seattle Freeze" real or perceived?
  • Is it just Seattle, or does the same ocurr in all over the US, or even the world?
  • Have you experienced difficulty making friends here, or when moving to a new city?
  • How do YOU respond when you are comfortable with your social life, and someone new tries to get closer?
  • Is it true that people look for financial status before accepting someone as a friend or date?
  • Does making friends have to do with how outgoing you are, or is it simply a matter of making the effort?
  • Have you made many friends outside this or other social clubs?


Abortion, Euthanasia: Right or Wrong?

  • Is alll human life sacred?
  • Is a fetus part of the mother, or its own separate being?
  • Do unborn children have rights?
  • Is suicide moral? Do we have the right to terminate our own lives?
  • Do you support capital punishment?


Human Sexuality and Gender Differences

  • Gender differences in sexuality; culturally conditioned or biological?
  • Examination of stereotypes.
  • Monogamy, polygamy, polyandry: what works?
  • Attitudes toward homosexuality in different cultures: examples?
  • Sexually repressive, restrictive, permissive, and supportive cultures: what is your culture? What do you think is the best attitude for a society?
  • Excerpts from Tantra: The art of conscious loving: what is your response? (ex. "too weired," "sounds great," "too much work for guys," etc.)
  • Juvenile sexuality in global perspective (great article about different traditions): what kind of sexual culture would you have preferred to live in during your teen years?
  • As a mental excercise, I'd like to do the following: Come up with a hypothetical society where people would experience maximum sense of well-being and minimum negative emotions. What kind of roles would sexuality play in such a society?


Religion, its Influence in History and Culture

  • Considering that religion has brought us the pursuit of peace and higher moral values, along with crusades and jihads -would you say its overall influence has been positive or negative?
  • How are the major religions perceived outside their sphere of influence? E.G. How does a Buddhist in Asia perceive Islam? How does a Muslim in the Middle East perceive Christianity?
  • Is religious intolerance present in modern-day society? Have you lived in, or experienced an environment of religious prejudice or discrimination?
  • An overwhelming majority of humans claim to be members of a religious faiths; what makes religion so appealing to us?
  • Science and religion have aparently faced conflict: Not only with Galileo and Darwin, but even today some think that both are mutually exclusive -are they, or not -and why?
  • What religion do you profess? Can you briefly explain why you believe in it, and not another one?


Why the World Loves and Hates The US

  • How are Americans and the United States seen abroad –and why?
  • US foreign policy: mostly right, or mostly wrong?
  • Fast food, Hollywood gossip, Microsoft software… is the world turning American?
  • Republicans or Democrats: does it really make a difference abroad?
  • How has US foreign policy affected your corner of the world?
  • Is it fair to judge US actions outside the context of a cold war; is it different now, and how?